Joe Pags: ‘It’s horrible at the border and it’s not getting any better any time soon’

https://soundcloud.com/newstalkstl/joe-pages-interview-with-mike-ferguson-12-08-21?in=newstalkstl/sets/mike-ferguson-in-the-morning&si=47c3456d86ed4ebda4b383678107156f&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing